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The RTWJ Podcast
America is (Not) Healing
We’re back after a two-month break, having left just as widespread immigration enforcement actions ordered by the Trump administration, and the resulting protests, were beginning in Southern California. Now we return to an America that feels increasingly unrecognizable, where on the very day of this recording the Supreme Court agreed to hear a challenge to Obergefell v. Hodges, the landmark case recognizing same-sex marriage at the federal level, China tariffs have once again shifted and are now suspended for 90 days, and National Guard troops are deployed in Washington, D.C. That is only the start of a long list of sweeping, and at times bizarre, directives from the Trump administration, so join us as we unpack this new reality and explore where we might be headed next.
Monday, August 11, 2025
Broadcasting from Orange County, california. This is the real talk with jam podcast now your hosts john and marcus.
Speaker 2:Hey everybody.
Speaker 1:Welcome back to the real talk with jam podcast yes, back to real talk with jam.
Speaker 2:So you guys previously know knew us as rtwj. If you haven't figured it out by now, right, rtwj, real Talk with Jam Podcast. So going back to our roots again, like we were, I got to start something.
Speaker 1:Come on, jesus Christ. Yeah, but for lack of a better name on Instagram, of course, rtwj Podcast is kind of a quicker, easier way to find us and just maintain a clear, concise, simple username as well as location, right, Because you know, yes, we are the RealStockWithJam podcast.
Speaker 1:But you know, in many ways we can use RTWJ and we're going to continue to use that abbreviation wherever we see fit, just because it's easier to say and kind of save some space, right, Absolutely so welcome back. I know it's been a long time. Last episode, we see fit, just because it's easier to say and kind of save some space, right, Absolutely so welcome back. I know it's been a long time. Last episode we talked about, you know, the crazy amount of things that have happened here in Los Angeles, Southern California, because we are in Orange County, specifically down here in South Orange County, and we're pretty close to everything that's happening. So we've seen a lot of changes and we weren't sure where we were going to go as we gauged those changes. But here we are. As expected, things just got crazier.
Speaker 2:So I'm going to start with a little bit of story time. I know it's going to sound bizarre because it's going to start with there was a bar, but it's going to make sense. Okay, give me a minute, john.
Speaker 2:Don't yell at me yet You've got to be a good storyteller, so go for it. So there is a bar or a bar that I go to, a gay bar in LA, that a couple of weeks ago and I've gone to this bar for a couple of years now all kinds of stories that's for another show. But they had posted some information about possibly having to close down due to a couple of factors. You know, covid of course hurt a lot of businesses. A lot of many businesses didn't recover from COVID. They were also in the middle of the curfew zone for the protests that were going on when we last left, you guys. So a couple of things right. So this bar was at risk of closing oh there's our studio cat is at risk of closing. Oh there's our studio cat.
Speaker 2:But after this announcement, word spread and one of the news outlets here in LA actually picked it up and picked up the story and did a post of their own kind of saying basically what was going on. And I just had to for the sake of it, because things are so crazy nowadays. I had to see the comments. I wanted to. You're bold. I was like, let's see how terrible these comments are. And there was one in particular, very short and sweet, but I think is kind of the reason why I want to tell the story is kind of to open up our conversation today with this. This comment was very simple and it just said three words. Today with this, this comment was very simple and it just said three words. It said America is healing and had little prayer hands and angel wings, a couple of those dumb emojis and whatnot. But when I saw that I actually wrote it down and this was again a couple of weeks ago. I put it in my notes for our show. I feel like I really and I think a lot of our conversation is going to go around that and that perception that is out there by the extreme far alt-right, that we are in some kind of healing or let's use the words healing or cleansing phase.
Speaker 2:With what's been going on these past few months, especially the summer. This summer has been absolutely just beyond belief, some of the things we've seen. I mean and I'll just throw a couple more things out there, john, before I give you your turn we just today, for example, the Obergefell Supreme Court ruling, which is what requires even states that don't perform gay marriages to at least recognize same-sex marriages. That is now officially, as of today, being challenged. The tariffs against China, once again today, after they've changed, they've gone from, I don't know, 5,000% to 5% to 10% to this percent and that percent are suspended for 90 days. 10% to this percent and that percent are suspended for 90 days effective today, just today, as we're coming back to you. Let's not even get through the past two months, right, it's been just about exactly two months since we talked to you guys Just today. Several developments, the National Guard being deployed in Washington DC, all of that going on.
Speaker 2:And again, I just thought that that comment really resonated with me and kind of expresses what this side sees as America is healing. So wanted to start off our episode just by throwing that out and, I guess, dissecting that as we just process what has been going on. But that really, that really stuck out to me, like I had to write it down and whenever we were going to record again I had to bring that. So that's where I'm at, just starting to process that first and that perspective on everything that we're dealing with I, I don't even order, I, I, I don't know, I, I remember weeks ago.
Speaker 1:Well, now it's been months.
Speaker 1:Actually it's been six plus horrible months of this uh dictatorship, which I'm going to continue to say that, and I'm going to keep saying it. This is fascism In all its sense. This is fascism. The things that happened today, which we'll get into later on, explains why I say these things, and I was told a while ago that I was too vocal, too passionate about the things I was saying, and, out of respect, I took it down a notch, so to speak, to try to speak with more clarity. That's what I was told, but I realized that I was speaking with clarity.
Speaker 1:It's just certain people don't understand the impacts and implications that it has on people like myself. And here's the problem, though it's not just me anymore, it's not just Marcus, it's not just minorities, it's not just individuals with disabilities, it's not just seniors, it's not just veterans, it's not just those who are on Social Security, it's not those who rely on Medicaid, it's not those that rely on food banks, it's not individuals who are experiencing homelessness, it's not even women, it's everybody. Absolutely right, and I just am completely shocked that in my lifetime, we had to see this happen. As a millennial, we've been through so many crises, right, marcus? Let's talk about it the recession 9-11, housing market, a horrible job market, when we were supposed to be graduating college, we were guaranteed to get a great job that took care of our families. Millennials are known to be the generation that entered the worst job market in modern US history.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. We're growing up in that credit rush, remember from the 2000s and then, right as we're graduating, from the 2000s and then, right as we're graduating, everything crashes.
Speaker 1:I thought we were that generation, right, and, mind you, the sad thing is that we're kind of used to things like this, right, but this is so much different and and the fact that people and this is what pisses me the fuck off, excuse me is that before people who voted for this fucker said, they said, oh wait, just give it some time, right, just give it some time it. This is what happens. And now all of them are fucking quiet. Not a single one of them has said anything yet. They were vocal when biden tried to give study loan forgiveness that benefits the majority of people. They were vocal about many other things and made their stance, but now they're quiet because it's not working, because they realized it isn't working.
Speaker 1:It's not working groceries are at an all-time high. What happened to? Groceries are at an all-time high. What happened to that? Cost of living is at an all-time high. What happened to that? Ivf were promised right Whoops, let's step back. What happened to all these things? Where are these things moving forward? Can you guess the percent right now? Oh, I think it's a little higher now.
Speaker 2:How far are we along in reaching 100? Entirety of project 2025? Oh, I think. Well, I don't have a current figure, but even just over the summer weren't we at like two-thirds or something?
Speaker 1:we're about halfway.
Speaker 2:Oh, halfway okay, 47 maybe I was thinking when we were a third. I think I remember when we reached a third 47%.
Speaker 1:Yes 47%, 47%. We have had just so many things happen like today right.
Speaker 2:Just today is what I listed.
Speaker 1:yes, Today is August 11th, 2025. Today, we talked about how the Supreme Court is going to rehear the possibility of an overturn of, of course, you know, know same-sex marriage here in the us.
Speaker 2:But you know what round of applause, ladies and gentlemen, we made it 10 years this is what we're what we're doing right now and what that would mean if it gets overturned is basically, if the state does not perform or recognize them themselves, they don't have to recognize from other states. So right now let's say, right, california performs them, and then you're in a state that does not perform them, still by federal court ruling it has to be recognized that you're legally married. You'll only be legally married, recognized in those states that actually allow it. So you go to the South, you go to some places over in that part of the country. Your marriage is null and void, it doesn't exist in their eyes, if this actually happens. So that's what the problem is with that specific ruling getting overturned.
Speaker 1:One thing that bothers me is Marcus had mentioned right, we are healing and this concept, this freaking idea that somehow their culture or white culture is disappearing, or whatever the case is. I'm going to make this clear, loud and clear the US has no culture. If we gathered all the white people in the US and put them together, there is no culture. They take culture from everywhere else. Their culture is taking from other cultures. If you truly want to go back and be and cleanse America and heal, then get rid of everything. Don't watch the NBA, don't watch NFL, don't watch the World Cup, don't watch the Olympics, don't go to Mexican restaurants, don't go to Italian restaurants.
Speaker 2:Nothing.
Speaker 1:Don't go to mexican restaurants, don't go to italian restaurants, nothing. Don't go nowhere. Don't do that. Don't live in cities like rancho, santa margarita, don't live in cities like san juan capistrano, don't live in cities like san clemente. The fact that this is just like. I don't get it like. If you really want to emphasize your culture, emphasize your culture, show us your culture, but don't take from anyone else's. Don't come out here saying, oh, we don't want it like this, but yet every single mexican food place is packed to the brim.
Speaker 2:Absolutely right, people wear mega hats to Mexican restaurants.
Speaker 1:Yes, they do, people wear. Maga hats to these establishments, knowing that this visual representation of MAGA isn't oh, my president, no, that's a cult, that's bigotry, that's hatred that's bigotry, that's hatred, and you were with.
Speaker 2:Two are facing a community that's been hurting and been targeted and is in pain right now because of everything that's been happening you represent throw it in their face.
Speaker 1:I don't get how a felon who's married to an immigrant is telling me that immigrants are a problem to this country. Explain that to me, and I don't care all the arguments I get. He is a felon. He is a felon according to the law.
Speaker 2:He is a felon. Well, once epstein uh came up, oh he got real mad, real quick. Right, he got real upset you know what?
Speaker 1:to all those people that voted for him speak up, come on, here's your chance right now. What about that? What about the epstein files?
Speaker 2:you're gonna deny that too, I mean he couldn't even, he couldn't speak to it, he couldn't even trump was what remember?
Speaker 1:you all said that trump was going to release the files because he was going to stand up for us. He doesn't care about you.
Speaker 2:He doesn't care about me.
Speaker 1:He's a billionaire. He gives a rat's ass about any of us he has. His interests are taken care of. He can care less. That's the problem. He doesn't work for everybody. He works for a select few and we just can't see that I mean how many like let's.
Speaker 2:I mean just branching out, how many businesses, for example, out there right now with these tariffs? I here, I go again with the economics, but you know what the economics affect us and, like you were saying, john, how everybody is affected somehow. How many businesses, how many government agencies right now, how many just organizations in general, budgeting, planning, trying to deliver their service, whatever they're doing, they don't even know how to do that because these tariffs change every day and there's no way to plan for things, there's no way to anticipate anything. You don't know how much things are going to cost. I was just seeing today an article I was reading on the computer Arizona tea, that famous 99-cent can of just sugar juice that you buy when you want to save a couple of dollars. You buy when you want to save a couple of dollars. They're finally saying, okay, we've held that price for 99 cents forever.
Speaker 2:With this aluminum tariff from Canada, you know, because a lot of so, whether it's soda or other products, if you liked, canned beverages, some of that aluminum comes from Canada. It's not all coming from here. Now, with the tariff on aluminum from Canada, it's like, well, we're going to have to pass on the cost of the consumer. How is that going to help lower prices? I don't get it. And again, we were talking about this before we took our break. Domestic production doesn't just start the next day. Okay, tariff, we're going to get rid of this product from these other countries. We're going to produce it here tomorrow. It does not work that way. It takes time. It takes a long time to backfill that if the country as us, if we even, can fully backfill it. So it doesn't exactly work like it's supposed to. It's like tomorrow, all these jobs are supposed to just show up because we have these tariffs. It does not work that way. It does not work that way show up because we have these tariffs, it does not work that way.
Speaker 1:It does not work that way. So the best part of the US and I guess the best part of the United States has always been that's multiculturalism, and I've always I've always stood by this. It's the fact that we have many different backgrounds and cultures that make this place so diverse and unique. I'm so grateful that I grew up and live in the most diverse place in this country, and those are true foundations of what the US is about. People say they're patriots right, and I'm like patriot. A patriot stands for its country and the best for everybody, not for one person. We don't stand for one person. That's a dictator, right? You know, when obama became president, biden became president, I didn't remember. I didn't have no hat, shirt, stickers, flags, nothing, nothing, because that isn't uh, that isn't. That is a person that I voted elected to represent me in government. That isn't a cult leader. Let's go further. That's why I voted for it. They should be running the government.
Speaker 2:George Bush. I don't remember any shirts or hats for George Bush, w Bush. Oh, I want to go further back. Yeah, let's go to George W Bush. Was there some big movement that happened? I don't recall that, not one bit. That. I don't recall that, not one bit. I don't recall this happening when the previous Republican president was around. Not at all.
Speaker 1:I Excuse me, I'm just trying to like think of my thoughts, right, Because, for example today, like OK, here's another thing that really got me off guard. So, for example, right now, you know MAGA is trying to recruit ICE bounty hunters. We're not going to call them law enforcement, they're trying to recruit them for ICE, which is eventually in.
Speaker 2:Because ICE, by the way, is worn out.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:They are being run to the ground by this guy and what the bill said.
Speaker 1:They're supposed to hire over 10,000 people. Right, making it the largest federal law enforcement in the country, which is crazy. Right, because if you've seen recruitment lately, the saddest, craziest thing is that student loan debt is not a weapon that MAGA is going to use. Why do do you say that? Because, according to Recruitment Poster, they're offering a $50,000 signing bonus and $60,000 of student loan repayment. Wait, they couldn't do that, though. Remember Marcus, they couldn't do that. Remember, there was a big issue about not helping people pay back their student loans. But if you today, and myself today sign up to be these bounty hunters Home free, we are home free. We get $110,000 between the signing bonus and student loan repayment. The money was there. The money has been there. Yes, the money will be there, but they don't care. The money was there, the money has been there. Yes, the money will be there, but they don't care.
Speaker 2:So remember, remember we've talked about before and this is something, a theme that comes up. You check the box, so in this case, you work for him. You achieve his agenda with immigration enforcement.
Speaker 1:You check the box. Remember they said that it was unconstitutional to forgive loans.
Speaker 2:Because you weren't checking his box. When you check his box, you're fine. You didn't check his box, but wait we don't have any money.
Speaker 1:We're in a major crisis. That's why we had iran must come to take care of us and look at our government and how effective and how efficient it was, and we were wasting like crazy and now those two literally hate each other. It's great, it is, it is so wait, so there's money for this there is, it's.
Speaker 2:It's all, in the end, about the social agenda that, again, america is healing. That's a social comment, that's not related to economics, that's related to social issues and that the fact that president trump is now going and and just making that, that dream, like you said, project 2025. Project 2025 has a lot of social elements in it and that's what he's achieving. The economics aren't adding up, that's for sure, but the social elements are. That's what we're seeing.
Speaker 1:We are in a huge and never-ending crisis of anti-intellectualism and I've and I just like I look at things and I really cannot believe that this is where we're at. For example, today we were talking about earlier, trump decided that the National Guard was going to be deployed in Washington DC, as well as his good old idiot Attorney General was going to go ahead and take over the dc police, right? So you know, washington dc is a really unique situation, right, because you know the way it's determined.
Speaker 1:There's a law that allows us for temporary in in a legal standpoint and in the way let's see if it's true or not. Yes, he has the right to do so.
Speaker 2:I think he's supposed to get what 48 hours initial of whatever he wants, but it's very particular, it has to be a case of extreme emergency to do things.
Speaker 1:You know what? Well, he stretches that yeah that's what he does you know what qualifies for that january 6th, which he did not do, which he did not do, he said he couldn't because he said he couldn't right that was not an extreme event.
Speaker 2:he said he couldn't Right that was not an extreme event. He said he couldn't there.
Speaker 1:but this the.
Speaker 2:Capitol was being attacked.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but right now, according to the head of the DC police saying that crime is at an all-time 30-year low in the DC metro area. Statistics, science, education prove that this is a trend.
Speaker 2:No no.
Speaker 1:You see that? Yes, you see the amount of hypocrisy and the amount of nonsense. The party that stands for freedoms from government, but yet every single thing they do.
Speaker 2:Wait, they do because I was going to say everything they seem to be doing is that's what they said okay they said they were going to relieve us from the grips of government. I feel like we're being gripped more than ever Because they wanted a small government, but now this government is bigger than ever.
Speaker 1:We have a force that's supposed to be called law enforcement. That's the biggest agency in the country. That's supposed to happen when we are using US troops military to attack its own citizens here in domestic territory. When we're deploying the National Guard against US citizens, when we are telling people what and who they can't love, when we tell schools that they have to put 10 commandments, when we're supposed to have a separation of church and state, but yet we can't put every single religion. We can only put the one they tell us to put, yep. Where's the freedom? We have reached that point, marcus, and I was afraid that I would have to say this one day. But we're there, yes, and the people that say that we're not? We're there. He wanted this and he got what he wanted. The fact that this has happened in less than one year means that we are utterly extremely fucked for the next three.
Speaker 2:It's here. It's here. It's been only a few months. We are under fascism.
Speaker 1:Yeah, america has fallen. The foundations that held us together have crippled, and I don't know how else to say it People's 401ks. Right now, people are like, hey, let's stop, because we don't know where the money is going to go. People are stopping to contribute to 401k plans. Sure Well, things crash. We don't know. We are in a position. We have no idea what it's going to look like. We used to be able to predict these things. Economists were able to predict the movement of our economy.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Businesses have no idea how to operate, but we have no clue.
Speaker 2:No, they have no clue.
Speaker 1:Even sectors that I work with have no clue. All they keep saying which is frightening is we gotta prepare for the worst, because we don't know what's gonna happen can anyone explain to me out there this whole thing too and this?
Speaker 2:I just came back from vegas. You guys know me what this attack is on international tourism, because I don't get it. So okay, immigration, you okay immigration. You want to make your arguments oh, we need ICE, we need this, we need that. Then let me ask you about that side of it why are we attacking international tourism? Nevada, california, other states that have a lot of tourist destinations right now? I mean, look at California, we have Disneyland, we have LA, we have San Diego, the Bay Area, where people from around the world come to visit who right now aren't too sure they should even be coming because they're not sure what's going to happen to them when they show up. Tourism is down and there are jobs and industries and businesses that rely on that. Orange County, our beaches, right here, locally, we rely on tourism.
Speaker 1:This is one of the highest tourism counties in the state. Yes, a lot of our money comes from that.
Speaker 2:Why is international tourism under attack? Why is he coming after people with extra fees and requirements? Oh, we're not going to issue these types of tourist visas. Why would we not want people and this is where I'm getting to your point of how you're saying the control he's exercising the fascism? Why would we not want to bring in international dollars to our economy which we rely on Him himself owning hotels and tourist destinations?
Speaker 2:I was puzzled by that he doesn't even know what day it is at this point. I was looking at his hotel when I was there on the strip and I'm like he owns a hotel and he's, I guess, suffering himself, but he's not because he has other things.
Speaker 1:The man who owns a hotel right is helping the working class. That's what he's, that's what he. That's what he said. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2:He's helping the working class and he's doing like again he's. This whole tourism thing hurts him, but he's doing it. He's in this business that's being hurt. He has international tourists come to his hotels. Now they can't come. I don't even get that part of it either. And of course we're hurting from it Job, Uber drivers, restaurants. We're just destroying ourselves and I don't get why.
Speaker 1:What really also is kind of what's going on. Is that remember when Trump was running for president? Kind of what's going on? Is that remember when trump was running for president? People, I was old enough to remember when people were saying that because of biden's inability to provide checks of relief to the poor people of north carolina right after a disaster, the whole issue with fema.
Speaker 2:What happened with some delays?
Speaker 1:okay, you know, hey, yeah, when, when the hurricane there. Okay, now I'm recalling the hurricane hit there, there was issues. Now I'm recalling it. Yeah, so the hurricane hit there, there was issues with the funding and so forth right Right. You know, of course, 750 bucks from FEMA. That's kind of how it is standard. It's the standard FEMA guidelines. Two days ago, breaking news Department of Homeland Security and our what is it? The DHS Barbie Kristi Noem oh.
Speaker 2:Immigration Barbie, christy gnome. Oh, immigration barbie. Yes, she's in every airport in america now delayed.
Speaker 1:I ignored her when I went on tv to all her commercials more than a hundred million dollars in disaster relief funds for north carolina and it's crazy right what happened to the fact that they ran on helping north carolina well, you know part of that.
Speaker 2:She has to now personally approve every request over $100,000 for anything. So she probably has an inbox probably with 5 million items in it that she's never going to look at. But she personally must sign off on every single thing, so things get delayed just because she has to look at it. She is again talking about control. She is such a control freak. She has this a hundred thousand dollars she must sign off on personally. So things get delayed and sit god.
Speaker 1:My head's so messed up that I've been hearing myself talk. I'm like my god, I've messed up, like multiple times. It's kind of my words have slurred, it's just this is overwhelming. I think it's just a lot to process.
Speaker 1:I've been watching tiktok because people that live in like bf, alabama and like arkansas, and, you know, mississippi and kentucky and all these states right and and I don't know why, they don't understand the concept that states like california, states like like New York are the ones that truly power the money in this country. These are the states that produce GDP. These are the states that produce economic movement. These are the states that truly shape the US. These are the states that truly shape the US. All these middle ground states that complain about people need to get their butt off the couch. That's why this is such a big deal for them. Don't understand it. They come from those exact states that are the highest number of recipients of public services in the country. Yes, the tax taking states. Yes, why don't we understand that concept that the tax-taking, the tax-taking, the tax-taking states are the ones that are literally bleeding this country from its resources? Us on the West Coast are the ones that support these states and keep these states afloat. Have you been to these?
Speaker 2:states. I have been to a few.
Speaker 1:They're interesting states, they look horrible.
Speaker 2:They are very interesting places. Crumbling sidewalks, yes, crumbling infrastructure Sidewalks, they have sidewalks.
Speaker 1:You know what You're right. Some parts of Dallas, Texas, they had no sidewalks.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But it's kind of like crumbling infrastructure.
Speaker 2:No access to healthcare Freedom.
Speaker 1:That's freedom, right there, just just absolute. Like I was like what america? This is the us. It looks like a village from the 1800s when the pilgrims came and colonized this area. It's just. I don't. I don't know where do we lose track of that I? I don't even know what to say anymore.
Speaker 2:That's okay.
Speaker 1:Just the fact that it's just out of control.
Speaker 2:America is healing. I'll reiterate America's healing. According to some.
Speaker 1:This is the path.
Speaker 2:This is the path to wellness. I don't know what wellness means, then. I don't know.
Speaker 1:The craziest thing is I wasn't surprised. That's something people were like. Why were you so sad on election day? Why were you so upset the day he won? Why did you spend hours crying? Because, unlike you idiots, I knew this was going to happen.
Speaker 2:And we were leaving a time of stability.
Speaker 1:Marcus and I knew the moment he won, I remember we were standing in here, we were standing in this room and we looked at the TV and when just sweep after sweep after sweep happened, we turned it off.
Speaker 2:We were recording, remember, yeah.
Speaker 1:And we had to stop the episode too. We couldn't do it.
Speaker 2:We were just okay, that's it, that's it.
Speaker 1:Because we knew what it meant. Here we are and exactly what we thought is what's happening. You people were so caught up, so caught up on a woman being president. The same argument oh, but she's. You know, she was vice president, I had a piece. Oh, I was able to feel safe at home.
Speaker 2:The thought of oh, a woman's going to start a nuclear war, and then, look there he goes bombing Iran.
Speaker 1:Look, at that.
Speaker 2:Excuse me, at one point with this whole thing with Russia, he positioned some submarines, some nuclear submarines, off the coast. And doesn't he have that video? Remember that video you were playing? When was that? When he says he says I'm gonna bomb the shit out of them or something, what?
Speaker 2:like you want to talk about a trigger happy president, this guy I mean he's threatened to blow up how many people in the past few months like it's out of control. But no, a woman's gonna have, you know, emotional issues. I've never even seen who are those. Who are those guys on TikTok? I forgot what show they come from those two that ask the Trump supporters questions and then they just kind of stare at them. Who are those guys?
Speaker 1:I don't know, yeah, but they're great.
Speaker 2:And one of them interviewed an older lady. She was like in I don't know, tennessee, one of those places, and she literally said because if we don't vote for, for him, that you know, if we vote for harris, she's gonna literally blow up the world like the first week of her. You know administration that's literally what this lady said. Because she would be a woman, an emotional woman, and trigger happy. Well, we got an emotional woman. After all, it's trump.
Speaker 1:So there you go on that note for all of us here at the real taco jam podcast, stay safe. I'm john, I'm marcus glad to be back with you guys.
Speaker 2:We'll be back in two weeks, on the fourth monday of august, and until then we'll catch you next time take care you, bye.